George S VINER

Other Events and Attributes:

• Census: 1871, 3, Blakes Buildings, South Street, Gosport

Notes:

Census:
Description: Tin Plate Worker and Brazier

Died:
FreeFormatDate:Dec Q 2b 317

George married Amy VAUGHAN on 30 Jun 1813 in Alverstoke Parish Church. Amy was born about 1789 in Alverstoke; died before 1871. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• Baptism: 27 Jul 1815, St. Mary's Church, Alverstoke
• Census: 1861, Clayhall
• Census: 1871, 11, Clay Hall Lane
• Census: 1881, 5, Vaughans Building, Clayhall

Notes:

Census:
Description: Retired Graces ?

Living as a visitor with Betty, Harriet and Clarissa Vaughan, all unmarried.
The three sisters were recorded as Householders.

Census:
Description: Agent

Recorded as a nephew of, and living with Betsey Vaughan - Landowner

Census:
Description: Owner of land and tenements

Died:
FreeFormatDate:Dec Q 2b 325 Alverstoke

Buried:
FreeFormatDate:222/1773

Other Events and Attributes:

• Baptism: 29 Jun 1817, Alverstoke Parish Church
• Census: 1851, 3, Corporation Road, Portsea
• Census: 1861, 24, Gloucester Street, Portsea
• Census: 1871, 24, Gloucester Street, Portsea
• Census: 1881, 15, Rutland Street "The Orange Tree" Portsea

Notes:

Census:
Description: Wife of a Seaman RN

Census:
Description: Beer House Keeper

Died:
FreeFormatDate:Dec Q 2b 313

Augusta married Obediah NEWNHAM in 1842 in Isle of Wight. Obediah (son of James NEWNHAM and Elizabeth NOBBS) was born about 1817 in Isle of Wight; died in 1880 in Portsea Island. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• Census: 1881, 15, Rutland Street "The Orange Tree" Portsea
• Census: 1891, 15, Rutland Street "The Orange Tree" Portsea
• Census: 1901, 64, Carlisle Road, Portsmouth

Notes:

Census:
Description: Mason

Census:
Description: Stonemason & Publican

Census:
Description: Stonemason

Family/Spouse: Mary Anne. Mary was born in 1844 in Portsmouth; and died. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• Census: 1861, 24, Gloucester Street, Portsea
• Census: 1891, 3, Palestine Place, Alverstoke, Hants
• Census: 1901, 88, Clayhall Road, Clayhall, Alverstoke, Hants
• Census: 1911, 88. Clayhall Road, Alverstoke
• Inquest: 6 Jan 1925

Notes:

Birth:
FreeFormatDate:Jun Q Portsea Island V11 144

The family bible says 1847.

Census:
Living with her mother and family

Inquest:
Description: Accidental Death

Died:
FreeFormatDate:Jan Q 2b 805

Description: Concussion of the brain following a fall

Informant was the Coroner

Amy married William George WILLIAMS on 9 Mar 1868 in the Parish Church, Portsea. William (son of George WILLIAMS and Anna Maria GARRETT) was born on 23 Jun 1839 in Upton Lovell, Wiltshire; died on 3 Nov 1896 in 149, Clayhall Road, Alverstoke. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• Census: 1871, 24, Gloucester Street, Portsea

Notes:

Census:
Description: Plasterer

Other Events and Attributes:

• Census: 1851
• Census: 1871, 24, Gloucester Street, Portsea

Notes:

Census:
FreeFormatDate:This Census puts his birth in 1845

Census:
Description: Plasterer

Other Events and Attributes:

• Census: 1881, 15, Rutland Street "The Orange Tree" Portsea

Notes:

Census:
Description: Staymaker

Family/Spouse: HARRIS. and died. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• Census: 1891, 15, Rutland Street "The Orange Tree" Portsea
• Census: 1901, 77, Belmont Street, Portsmouth

Notes:

Birth:
Dec Q 1870 2b 442 Portsea

Census:
Description: Telegraphist

Census:
Description: Telegraphist

Died:
St. Mary's Hospital, Portsmouth

Family/Spouse: Elizabeth Jane RAWLINGS. Elizabeth (daughter of Caroline) was born in 1868 in Warminster, Wiltshire; and died. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• Census: 1891, 15, Rutland Street "The Orange Tree" Portsea
• Census: 1901, 64, Carlisle Road, Portsmouth

Notes:

Census:
Description: Pupil Teacher (School)

Census:
Description: Ex PY Assistant (School)

Other Events and Attributes:

• Census: 1891, 15, Rutland Street "The Orange Tree" Portsea

Notes:

Census:
Description: Oil Merchant's Clerk

Other Events and Attributes:

• Census: 1911, 88, Clayhall Road, Alverstoke

Notes:

Birth:
FreeFormatDate:Sept Q Alverstoke 2b 484

Died:
FreeFormatDate:Mar Q Alverstoke Vol 2b Page 356

Other Events and Attributes:

• Census: 1881, 3, Palestine Place, Alverstoke, Hants
• Occupation: 1891, 2, Hughenden Villas, Alverstoke, Hants; Cook (Domestic Servant)for Phoebe M Cox
• Census: 1901, not known

Notes:

Part of a posting on the Ancestry message boards dated 22nd Feb 2005:-

"The family story has it that she was working in a big house as a domestic servant when the next door neighbour who was a major in the army was visited by William Barr, a mere private, and after delivering the message was sent to the kitchen for a cuppa. There he met Ada from next door. They married soon after. Romantic isn't it? William Barr rose to a quartermaster sergeant in the Royal Engineers and 10-years later (1902) their son John Victor Barr was born in Gillingham, Kent."

Fred Wright (London)

I have been unable to trace Fred and I have no clues as to his connection with Ada. CVM



Birth:
1st quarter Alverstoke 2b 529

Christened:
IGI

Died:
Informant - John Victor Barr - present at the death.

Mar Q 1936 9d 459 Patrington

Ada married William BARR on 13 Jun 1892 in the Parish Church, Alverstoke. William (son of John BARR) was born on 30 May 1870 in Chatham, Kent (Source - 1911 Census); died on 6 Feb 1929 in Hull Royal Infirmary. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• Baptism: 5 Jun 1873, St. Mary's Church, Alverstoke
• Address: 1891; Address:
  2, Hughenden Villas
• Occupation: 1891, 2, Hughenden Villas, Alverstoke, Hants; Housemaid (Domestic Servant)
• Census: 1911, 88, Clayhall Road, Alverstoke.

Notes:

William George Mills won a scholarship to Winchester College but Eva Annie turned it down, even though the Mills family offered to pay the fees. She insisted that he was going to join the R.E like his father.

Birth:
FreeFormatDate:Jun Q 1873 Alverstoke 2b 491

Baptism:
FreeFormatDate:Page 468 No. 3743

Address:
Description: as housemaid to Phoebe Cox

Occupation:
FreeFormatDate:for Phoebe M Cox

Died:
FreeFormatDate:aged 42 years

Description: Pulmonary Tuberculosis

Buried:
FreeFormatDate:246/1967

Her grave was supposedly marked by a headstone placed by WG Mills - not found when Celia & I visited in 2003.

The position is noted in the Sexton's records on Page 363 as "South of Stedmans (grave), North side of St. Mark's"

Eva married Thomas William MILLS, R.E on 2 Mar 1897 in the Parish Church, Alverstoke. Thomas (son of James MILLS and Sarah (Kate?) IRELAND) was born on 5 Mar 1874 in 3 Mead Terrace, Willesborough, Kent; was christened on 5 Apr 1874 in Willesborough, Kent; died on 25 May 1901 in Barrack No. 2, Newcastle upon Tyne; was buried on 29 May 1901 in Preston Cemetery, North Tyneside. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• Military Service Entered: 8 Nov 1894, HMS Excellent, Portsmouth
• Census: 1901, HMS Royal Oak
• Occupation: 1917; Petty Officer, Chief Armourer. No. 340452
• Occupation: 1925; Chargeman of fitters, Mining School, HMS Vernon
• Inquest: 2 May 1930

Notes:

Witnessed Eva Annie's Marriage in 1897

Medals

1914/15 Star
British War Medal
Long Service & Good Conduct
Military Medal for "bravery in the field"
Victory Medal
Croix de Guerre - Belgium

Birth:
Mar Q 1876 2b 543

Census:
Description: Acting Armourer

Inquest:
From the Hampshire Telegraph 2nd May 1930

The Explosion in H.M.S. VERNON.

Inquest on two victims

Handling of Hydrostatic Fuses


The explosion in HMS Vernon on March 19, 1930 which resulted in the deaths of Gilbert Hutchinson (46) of 39 Wadham Road, North End and William George Williams (54) of 94 Clayhalll Road Gosport was the subject of an exhaustive inquiry by the Portsmouth Coroner (Sir Thomas Bramsdom, JP) at the Guildhall on Wednesday afternoon.
The City Coroner sat with a jury, and Mr S. Brutton represented the Admiralty, Mr E J Bechervause was for the Mining School in HMS Vernon, Mr F A Maxwell-Wells represented the two widows, and Captain Pedlar, the Factory Inspector, was present on behalf of the Home Office. Harold Charles Shotter, a School Teacher, identified the body of the late Mr Hutchinson as that of his Uncle. The next witness was James Smith a clerk in the Dockyard who identified the body of the late Mr Williams as that of his father-in-law.
Lieut-Commander Douglas Geo. Wilberforce Curry, second assistant to the Superintendent of Design at Woolwich, said that last October he received the issue of two Hydrostatic Fuses. They were forwarded to the Superintendent of Mines in HMS Vernon. He understood that the Vernon tests would be carried out in deep water and not in a tank.
Percy Ernest Masters, the shop manager at Woolwich Arsenal spoke to the labelling of the fuses as being loaded when they left Woolwich for the Vernon, via Priddy's Hard. At Woolwich a fuse was always assumed to be loaded unless it was labeled otherwise.
William Neal, a storehouseman at Priddy's Hard said that the case (produced) arrived at the store on February 11. An "Experimental" label was on the box, but it did not show that the fuse was filled.
Commissioned Gunner Anthony Beard of HMS Vernon said that when the fuses were received by him he pointed out to Mr Pickford that there was a possibility of the fuses being loaded. Mr. Pickford, however, thought that they were unloaded. The fuses were delivered to the witness from Priddy's Hard in a box marked "Loaded" and the witness treated them as such.
P O Charles Crook of the Vernon, said that he received instructions from Mr Beard to issue the explosives to the late Mr Williams. The word "filled" did not appear on the box label.

THE EXPLOSION

A fitter named William Samuel, employed in the Mines School, said that on March 19 he saw the two deceased men and Mr Pickford.
Mr Williams had a fuse in his hand, and he asked the witness for a spanner, shortly afterwards be heard a sharp report and saw Mr Pickford with his hand covered in blood. Mr Hutchinson was lying on the floor and in the other end of the workshop Mr. Williams was lying in
great pain.
Mr Jessie Ward, a fitter in the School said that the heard the report and saw Mr Williams and Mr Pickford staggering about. He also saw Mr Hutchinson suffering from severe head injuries.

A FINGER BLOWN AWAY

The chief witness was Mr. Frederick Pickford, the principal technical officer in the Mines School, who appeared with his right hand heavily bandaged. He became distressed when he came to describe the accident. He said that he never thought that the fuse was filled, and he proceeded to take down the fuse. He went across to the test shop and asked the deceased man, Williams, to unscrew the detonator. Unfortunately for the late Mr Hutchinson, his was the first bench they came to and the operations were carried out on this bench. The explosion then occurred and the witness saw that a finger had gone from his right hand. He also saw Mr Hutchinson and Mr Williams collapse. The witness was discharged from Haslar Hospital on Monday. He never saw the box in which the fuses arrived from Woolwich via Priddy's Hard. Had he seen the box he would have expected to find the fuses loaded.
He agreed with the Coroner that in future it would be wise to distinctly mark a loaded fuse.
Replying to Captain Pedlar, the witness said that had he known that the fuses were loaded he would have sent them back to be emptied. He saw none of the correspondence accompanying the fuses.
Surgeon Commander Cory, Dr. R. H. Hodges, and Surgeon Commander O'Flynn gave medical evidence as to the cause of death in each case, and in his address to the jury, Sir Thomas Bramsdon said that the case emphasized the need for loaded fuses being marked as such.

VERDICT AND RIDER

The jury returned a verdict of "Accidental Death." and added a rider to the effect that the fuses should be clearly marked.

Died:
General Peritonitis following wounds to the abdomen and peritoneal cavity brought about by the explosion of hydrostatic fuse which was being taken to .... for experimental purposes at the Naval .... .... HMS Vernon on the 21st March 1930 of the same month accidental death.

Another sailor working with him was killed instantly.

Inquest around 30th April 1930

Buried:
Description: with his wife Lily

William married Lily PENN on 2 Dec 1896. Lily (daughter of Henry PENN and Harriet LIVERMORE) was born in 1873 in Sheet, Hampshire; died on 21 May 1959 in 169, Dover Road, Copnor, Portsmouth; was buried in Haslar Naval Cemetery, Plot N-20 2. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• Address: 1901; Address:
  88, Clayhall Road, Clayhall

Notes:

Birth:
June Q Alverstoke 2b 528

Died:
Name: WILLIAMS, Charles F
Registration District: Gosport
County: Hampshire
Year of Registration: 1951
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Age at death: 73
Volume No: 6B
Page No: 266

Charles married Mary Lydia Elisabeth BROWN in 1910. Mary was born in 1885; died in 1964. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• Address: 1901; Address:
  88, Clayhall Road, Clayhall
• Occupation: 1901; Plumbers apprentice
• Occupation: 1906; 2nd Corporal R.E
• Address: 1955; Address:
  3, Netherton Road, Gosport

Notes:

Retired to Upper Tooting where he died. Conflicting Info

According to Ron Mills, Vic visited Ireland about 1937 ? with "Ciss" and Wilfred while William George and his family were stationed there.
In 1939 Ciss was with Vic at Audrey's wedding.

Birth:
FreeFormatDate:Jul Q 1881 Alverstoke 2b 534

Died:
FreeFormatDate:Mar Q 6b 1094 Gosport

Description: In a flat at a private home for the elderly

Albert married Laura Beatrice NUNN on 16 Apr 1906 in the Parish Church, Alverstoke. Laura (daughter of William Walter NUNN and Mary Keziah MUSSETT) was born on 12 Apr 1883 in Winsley Road, Magdalen, Colchester, Essex; died on 11 Jan 1956 in 4.30pm Gosport. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• Address: 1901; Address:
  88, Clayhall Road, Clayhall
• Occupation: 1901; General labourer
• Census: 1911, 88,Clayhall Road, Alverstoke; Groundsman at Haslar Golf Club

Notes:

Birth:
FreeFormatDate:Jan Q 1884 Alverstoke 2b 559

Died:
Dec Q 1932 2b 709 Portsmouth

George married Mary C MCINTYRE in 1923 in Alverstoke. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• Address: 1901; Address:
  88, Clayhall Road, Clayhall
• Military Service Entered: 25 Aug 1904, Portsmouth; No. 344089 as a Boy Cooper
• Census: 1911, South China Sea, off the coast of Hainan. ; On board HMS Flora, a 2nd Class twin screw cruiser. Rating - 2nd Cooper.
• Military: 24 Aug 1926; Pensioned off from Royal Navy.

Notes:

Birth:
Dec Q 1886 Alverstoke 2b 519

Died:
Registration district: Portsmouth County:
Year of registration: 1975
Quarter of registration: Apr-May-Jun
Date of Birth:25 August 1886
Volume no: 20
Page no: 0842

Frederick married May Louisa ISAACS in 1920 in Alverstoke. May was born about 1890; died on 2 Nov 1959 in Andover. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]